Law?

[dr cheeks]

I had my finals this week. I must have my College application filled out by next week but Im still not sure what I wana do.. Iv law down in a university as my number 1 at the moment. Its not a bullshit law degree like most.. Did anyone here do law? Just looking for any advice I can get... Is it a hard few years? No point in starting it if I wont survive it. Thanks

[Roco]

Grad school?  Haven't heard of any undergrad law degrees...

If it's a college app just pick the least popular major then change it once you get accepted kekeke

[Ranker]

I had my finals this week. I must have my College application filled out by next week but Im still not sure what I wana do.. Iv law down in a university as my number 1 at the moment. Its not a bullshit law degree like most.. Did anyone here do law? Just looking for any advice I can get... Is it a hard few years? No point in starting it if I wont survive it. Thanks

Law as an undergrad degree? That IS a bullshit degree if it exists.

Do yourself a favor and get an engineering degree. It's the most fail safe degree and can be used as an edge to into any grad program later on.  Even if you don't end up going to grad school you'll still be making a lot more than the fucktards who chose econ, business, psychology, soc, or whatever other worthless degrees.

[dr cheeks]

Its an hons bachelor degree. Level 8 degree. Im from Ireland so I have no idea how the system works in the US but law is law.
Its done on points here its 455 out of 600 which is alot but I might get it the exams went well.

[dr cheeks]

I have Environmental and Earth system science down as number two, liberal arts third and environmental science fourth. I should get one of them easily enough.

[Kios]

Agree with Ranker: go engineering

[sitzkrieg]

I have Environmental and Earth system science down as number two, liberal arts third and environmental science fourth. I should get one of them easily enough.

...dude... are you TRYING to starve yourself to death?

Go with engineering.

[dr cheeks]

I hate maths Im did 7 subjects in school. I count six for points and maths was the one i excluded. The points for law and Environmental science are higher than any sort of engineering except structural. Politics or public administration maybe? Im seriously screwed I must decide in the next few days. I have a heart to heart with my career guidance counsellor tmro that might help.

[Roco]

I hate maths Im did 7 subjects in school. I count six for points and maths was the one i excluded. The points for law and Environmental science are higher than any sort of engineering except structural. Politics or public administration maybe? Im seriously screwed I must decide in the next few days. I have a heart to heart with my career guidance counsellor tmro that might help.

You're gonna hate being poor a lot more than you hate math.

[dr cheeks]

Environmental Science and Sustainable Technology OR Sustainable Energy? The course "Energy Engineering" is way out of my reach.. Its requirements are up there with medicine and dentistry. These are all 4 year courses which are Hons bach. Surely Energy wont put me on the bread line?

[Roco]

I dunno, back when I was in college we had an Environmental Studies program and it was before any of this global warming/clean energy noise was even talked about.  It was new to the majority of people and seen as the hippie degree that only the freaks that wore jesus cleats and hand-sewn hemp "jewelry" went after.

Sustainability and clean energy is gonna be the next big thing, but I'm not sure what you can do with a Sustainable Tech or Sustainable Energy degree.  What kind of things(subjects) do they teach in the upper division courses?

[dr cheeks]

Environmental Science & Sustainable Technology
First Year Modules

Semester 1
Introduction to Environmental Science
Creativity, Innovation & Teamwork
Introduction to Physics
Practical Computer Technology 1
General and Inorganic Chemistry
Discrete Mathematics 1

Semester 2
Introduction to Sustainable Technology
Measurement and Calibration
Physics
Physics and Organic Chemistry
Electives (Choose 1)
Climate Change and Energy
Wind Energy
Sustainability and Transport
Free Choice








Sustainable Energy
-First Year Modules:

Semester 1:
Electro technology
Climate Change and Energy
Creativity, Innovation & Teamwork
Introductory CAD
Mechanics 1
Sustainable Energy 1 (Systems)

Semester 2:
Engineering Graphics & Design 1
ICT for Engineering Technicians
Instrument Calibration
Technological Mathematics 1
Thermo fluids 1

Electives
Wind Energy
Construction Technology
Free Choice module

[dr cheeks]

Those are just the first year modules introduction period. Still have no idea what to do though...

[Roco]

The second one looks like "Engineering Lite" where you actually get involved with some of the nuts and bolts.  The first one seems like it's mostly theory, and the O-Chem might make you cry.  If I had to pick one or the other I kind of like the second one better!

[Kios]

O-Chem is amazing. I mean they teach you how to make drugs!

The speech my O-Chem prof gave the class on the first day:

"You're going to learn how to make a lot of things in this class. Now obviously I can't stop you from experimenting, but I'll be handing out a list of drugs that, if you fuck up even a little bit while making, will kill you. Please don't die because of my class, I'm still working on the paperwork from the last kid."

Maybe I should go back into engineering...

[dr cheeks]

Hmm... I like the sound of that. Finally this is another thing Ive been looking at... Examining tissue for pathogens

Science - Biomedical

-First Year Modules

Semester 1:
General and Inorganic Chemistry
Introduction to Biomedical Science I
Introductory Cell Biology
Physics for Biomedical, Food, Nutritional and Environmental Sciences
Creativity, Innovation & Teamwork

Semester 2:
Introduction to Health Science
Introduction to Human Biology
Introduction to Biomedical Science II
Introductory Mathematics and Applied Mathematics
Physical and Organic Chemistry

Module Information : http://modules.cit.ie


The CIT / UCC joint BSc (Honours) Degree in Biomedical Science is one of only three Honours degrees in the Republic of Ireland which are recognised by the Academy of Medical Laboratory Sciences (professional body) as enabling graduates to practise in hospitals in the State. However, this BSc (Honours) must be accompanied by clinical placement training. Graduates of the BSc (Honours) will be offered the opportunity to complete this placement in a designated hospital laboratory.

Also has O chem 

[sitzkrieg]

Sustainability and clean energy is gonna be the next big thing, but I'm not sure what you can do with a Sustainable Tech or Sustainable Energy degree.  What kind of things(subjects) do they teach in the upper division courses?

With that degree, he'll make a fine solar panel installer.

Why even fuck around with hippy shit? Just get an EE degree and have something that's perpetually useful.

[dr cheeks]

At least you said a fine one.

[Ranker]

Look.

Stop being an idiot. Major in either EE, ME, CE, or CS.  If I had to live life again, I'd go engineering yet again (but this time sooner without getting a fucking minor in every other major).

Don't fuck around with fringe majors as it'll hurt your hiring potential. 

EE - Every fucking type of engineering/manufacturing company would hire you.  You can do cool shit like making rockets for JPL (like my gf's dad does) or blow up terrorists with new laser guided bombs at Lockheed (like Loz does).  It's probably THE best degree you can get in my opinion due to its versatility and earning potential.  You're guaranteed to make 6 figures in less than fives years, without having to go to graduate school.

ME - If you like building shit like cars, planes, bridges... do this. 

CE - Pharmaceuticals, Big Oil, etc... this makes mad money as well.

CS - If you love computers, have a knack for programming, CS will get you hired with the highest starting salary outta all the engineering majors.  However, you cap out a lot faster than the EE, CE, and ME's.

[dr cheeks]

Im thinking chemical.

Energy is something I can forget about. Out of the 6 subjects I have 5 are higher level so I should do well most do 1 or 2 higher. Higher gets upto 100 points ordinary is 60 points. Im hoping for 400+. Energy in my local university is 530... Medicine is 570.

All that  major stuff makes no sense to me but yeah.. Chemical engineering or biomedical is what Im thinking about right now. I have another 3 days to decide.

[sitzkrieg]

Speaking of sustainable energy degrees....

From the Sandusky (Ohio) Register, a story about the ghost of green jobs future:

    EHOVE educators also want to avoid the situation Oregon City Schools is facing after 13 graduates of its renewable energy program sued the district in December.

    Dawn Weinbrecht, 41, of Toledo worked in real estate for 18 years and decided to go back to school when that industry tanked. She signed up for a six-month course on wind, solar and geothermal energy at Oregon Career and Technology Center.

    "We thought that this would be the new wave and that green energy jobs would be fruitful and available," Weinbrecht said. "When we signed onto the program, we were guaranteed job-shadowing experience and hands-on training."

    Neither internships nor jobs materialized, according to the lawsuit....

    Ohio had 35,267 jobs in the clean-energy economy in 2007, according to a report by the Pew Charitable Trusts, making the state fourth in the nation.

    But green jobs still represent a small portion of the work force. Even by the broadest definition, green jobs make up only 2 percent of the economy, according to a new report from the U.S. Department of Commerce.

CE is pretty damn good. A friend's uncle is a chemist in Vegas. He does the formulas for the laundry, etc. He is stupendously rich because of it.

[dr cheeks]

Ya but come on that is some shit six month course all you need is money to do it probably. If I did it it'd be 4 years in university. At the same time though that is a bad sign...

[sitzkrieg]

Ya but come on that is some shit six month course all you need is money to do it probably. If I did it it'd be 4 years in university. At the same time though that is a bad sign...

Doesn't matter if it's 6 months or 4 years. If there's no market, or the market only exists by government subsidy like sustainable energy currently does, then your job prospects are very, very bleak.

and the new trend of online schools, etc, don't knock them. They're eating up market share on traditional 4 year degrees very fast, and their certs/degrees are in fact going up in value while college becomes increasingly unaffordable, and simultaneously devalued by government initiatives to hyper-inflate the 4 year school attendance. Turns out you don't need extra years of Texas History or be forced to read esoteric literature assignments to prove your competence in a lot of fields.